Presented by Floy Lilley at the “Economics for High School Students” seminar. Recorded at the Mises Institute in Auburn, Alabama; 20 November 2009. Sponsored by Jeremy S. Davis.
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wow what a couple of dumbfucks……surhowhatever and braindeadwhatever……..they don’t even fucking get it….if you don’t sustain life you sure as fucking hell can’t sustain liberty….this fucking video is lame and these turkey posters are lame…again i am a libertarian…i’ve also been calling the markets for decades…im a thousand times more economically sophisticated then the doucebag giving these presentations…but im still humbled by the pure genius of nature’s systems…
maybe i will n66178, i’m just not a dumb hoor about it like this hag, meaning i would only present a very deeply thought out lecture on the subject. If you are so ffing stupid, that you can’t even guess that my lectures would be so much more informative, inspirational and educational then you’re just lame. Obviously they could be anything. Again, i’m a libertarian, just because you’re a libertarian, doesn’t give you a pass to be a heartless slob like this hag…anyway, good suggestion there n66
@whothehellgivesadamn
It must be easy to hide behind the anonymity of your internet comments.
Maybe you should give some lectures then, Professor Whothehellgivesadamn.
this woman is not that bright, im a libertarian and what she does is skew and spin all kinds of stupid numbers. Number one if you observe the recycling systems of nature in its ecosystems then you would know that nature is multitude of recycling systems on all kinds of levels and that it behooves human economies to do so in a dynamic way…this broad is just a dumb cunt hiding behind dummed down libertarianism with no understanding of engineering, ecology, biology or anything appealing to idiots
Cool I’ll watch it now..thanks mate.
I’d be intereste to know where Floy Lilley got this statistic..anybody know?
100 sq. miles, out of 3,537,441 sq miles in the US? God help us, where will we find the room?!?
Watch Penn and Teller’s Bullshit episode on recycling.
This is all a smoke screen. Intellectually, everyone knows what the real problem is but most people are too scared to confront it. Over population is a political hot potato that no party or religious organisation are willing to take on as it means culling at least 70 % of the worlds population to bring it back to a size that the planet can support. You can just see the Green Party running on a ticket of Genocide.
That’s not an answer to my question.
Is your recycling business subsidized in any way by local, state or federal government?
9:33 that is a remarkable statistic..wow
You need to study externality theory to grasp the matter. I won’t give you an economics lesson here but landfilling is underpriced by the market and the all the benefits of recycling are built into the market price.
@ RecyclingAuthority
I assume you are in the recycling business.
If your arguement (if arguement is too strong– call it your statement) is that recycling is good for the economy, then I have one question:
Is your recycling business subsidized in any way by local, state or federal government?
If you can turn a profit all on your own, without any government help, then I’ll be happy for you, and wish you great success. If not… well… not so much.
That simply not true. I know it goes against the Mises dogma but there are many instances of externalities not incorporated by the private market. Landfilling has negative externalities and recycling has positive ones. Also data show that trash service is cheaper if coordinated by local government and includes recycling. I don’t expect Mises devotees to believe that though.
Some things can be recycled in a way that is a net positive (aluminium for example) but most can’t. Anything that is will be recycled by the market anyway, whenever government gets into the business of providing recycling it’s a net loss, of they wouldn’t have needed to get involved in the first place.
It may all be true what she’s saying, but, it’s socially not acceptable to say so. Recycling remedies the guilt. THAT’S powerful. Unfortunately..
Recycling allows value-added activity to take place with resources that would otherwise be buried. Both science and economics show that there are plenty of reasons to recycle. It is good for the environment AND the economy. In addition to creating a variety of skilled and unskilled jobs associated with the recycling industry, recycling preserves natural resources, conserves energy, and reduces pollution.
recycling anything other than metal is a waste of time.
It takes more energy to recycle plastic and paper than it saves,as in making new products,thats DUMB!
Recycling is a way for consumerism to continue to destroy our civilization.
Recycling as a placebo to take the guilt from unsustainable consumption and one day we shall see.
The key to recycling is to change consumption behavior and buy used more often.This I already do and try to buy drinks in glass.
Really great talk, thank you Mises Rocks!
@Gyrode Most people see in much the same manner. The human eye is much the same as any other filter or lens; the purity of the chemicals, minerals, and other substances we consume that are supposed to keep our eyes healthy will depend upon the quality of our vision and to what light colors please or bother us most.
Sometimes I wonder if much of the “new” technology actually take hazardous waste for use in consumer products. Sort of like the “China lead-toys” etc.
Too many LED’s have really harsh, white or blue light. I have a CFL that has light almost identical to an incandescent bulb, I never bought one until those styles came down in price.
@JETZcorp When I first got involved in recycling, in the mid 1980′s, there were catalogues that identified markets for the recovered materials.
Then I familiarized myself with several municipal recycling facilities from around the USA and realized some of the failings. They almost all remain unorganized. The municipalities almost always skim money off the top to fill the General Fund short-falls. Prices for recovered material are just like the Wall-Street Stock w/ ups and downs.
Long-Haul
When no one wants it, it’s waste. When there’s a market demand, they become valuable raw resources. The market should determine whether the materials go the the landfill, or if they are collected and recycled in the traditional manner. Or, as was suggested in the video, if it is “mined” from landfill and recycled from there.
That said, I recycle glass, plastic and aluminum because the State of Oregon pays me to do so. I consider that a tax refund, because it was my money to begin with.
I am not for politically mandated recycling. It almost never works.
However, I heard the same attitude this woman has from people I talked with at WMI many years ago.
Waste is NOT inescapable.
Only the closed and non-creative and non-imaginative mind sees raw materials as waste.
Try using the energy from trash before you bury it. You get more energy.
With the filter Mother Nature designed and I modified, there is in fact 0 –that is ZERO waste.
This must be an old video. LED’s that I used give off quite a bit of light to read and work in.